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little sister/brother Posts: 3 11 November, 2008 2:37 AM	Tags : None I'm about to continue my journey into the Spiral Politic after reading The Book of the War, This Town Will Never Let Us Go and Of the City of the Saved... with Lance Parkin's Warlord of Utopia. Do any of the fine members here have any 'Things To Watch Out For'? in this book (cross-refrences to other novels, links to the Whoniverse, favourite page)?
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Curufea		#1	[url]	[-]
cousin Posts: 115 11 November, 2008 3:02 AM	I have all the Faction books, but have not yet read them - I'm going through the Renegade books with mentions of the Faction first (with long delays where I am forced to read books shoved at me by my fiancée). Although I have gone through the Book of the War a fair bit to create the wiki. Faction Paradox RPG The Book of the War Apocrypha - home of fan entries to the Book of the War
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Posts: 427 11 November, 2008 4:05 AM godmother	You might want to brush up on your latin (or at least find an online translator) to catch some of the jokes.
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mother/father Posts: 711 11 November, 2008 9:39 AM	Just don't read it too quickly and go missing half of the references as I did first time - the major one being Abschrift (think that's the spelling) who may or may not be a character or related to a character with whom you may or may not already be familiar, if that isn't too much of a giveaway. And I'm pretty sure it isn't. Nice avatar by the way. OT, but I can't post it on the announcements page: Yay! Look at me being quoted on the Random Static website!!! I made it, Ma. Top of the world! Psst... wanna see some rocks? http://www.phpbb88.com/nohandaxesinus/index.php?sid=f9f8d0be2e1115b952673fdbccfea165&mforum=nohandaxesinus
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cousin Posts: 128 11 November, 2008 5:08 PM	I would definitely second felice's suggestion of making sure you get the Latin gags. It's also worth looking out for the shout outs to famous alt-verses relevant to the premise, including (if memory serves) Robert Harris's Fatherland, Philip K Dick's Man in the High Castle, and Monty Python's Life of Brian. There's a possible "offscreen" appearance of the Evil Renegade at the very end, as well.
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cousin Posts: 147 11 November, 2008 6:39 PM	bthogg wrote: There's a possible "offscreen" appearance of the Evil Renegade at the very end, as well. There is? Think I missed that. Also reportedly the Enemy may be referred to in the book, but not in an obvious way or one that I've picked up on. Enjoy the book! Glyn
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mother/father Posts: 444 11 November, 2008 7:43 PM	My main problem with the book is that Lance Parkin doesn't seem to realise that Rosa Luxemburg was Jewish. The Stacks - the site for Faction Paradox fanfic and other fanworks "Larry was with us in spirit" - Kate Orman (for more of my messed up thoughts on culture, magick and revolutionary politics)
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cousin Posts: 128 11 November, 2008 8:06 PM	GlynG wrote: bthogg wrote: There's a possible "offscreen" appearance of the Evil Renegade at the very end, as well. There is? Think I missed that. bottom of p.177: Spoiler [+] "I found my way here. I cannot tell you how without compromising those who aided me and so I will not say. I will leave it as a question mark." (Emphasis added. It always makes me think it's the manipulative one, though. Silly costume decisions for the win.)
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Yssgaroth		#8	[url]	[-]
little sister/brother Posts: 3 12 November, 2008 4:11 AM	Thanks for all the pointers everyone - ironically since I started this thread I've been too busy to actually start the book! Bring on the weekend...
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