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ushas the rani |
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well this has to be the least scary 'scary story' ever made, I pretty much worked out it was a virtual reality computer environment from the first
glimpse of the computer probe last week, this week gave us a lot of fluff and padding to stratch what would have been a great 1 parter into a really bland 2
parter. I for one am now not looking forward to RTD giving up the reins once next years specials are made...
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doloras |
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Larry's thoughts on this mesh very much with yours. And he's right, you know, 100%
right - I was never scared of anything I saw on Evil Renegade while I was little, and I was totally perplexed when I grew up and
heard all these "behind the sofa" clichés. (Although my mother assures me she was actually scared of the Daleks.)
Seriously - I don't like the way Moffat is repeating himself, with the "yay, everyone lives" motif - excuse me, five people did *not* live, except as digital simalcrums of themselves, and while that's a pretty good afterlife (esp. with every book ever written to read), I don't think it counts as not dying. Also - what, did CAL magically figure out where she went wrong with transcribing Miss Evangelista, and if so, how? That was a big plot hole which we weren't supposed to think about in the wave of Warm Fuzzy at the end there. I would have loved to see Squashed Plastacine Faced Goth happily running out to meet her teammates at the end. Still, there were a couple of plot twists that I didn't see coming, and it does seem like the River Song thing shows that Moffat is at least thinking long-term. Larry doesn't see that as one of his strong points, so maybe it's a promising sign. Of course, only Larry has ever sensibly scripted out a Death of the Doctor story, so he has higher standards on this issue than others. In this issue of The Most Hated Blog West of the Houseworld, Larry hits back at Fandom Wank et al: Tips for Doctor Who fans, number eighteen: why not try completely ignoring the point of everything I've written in this column, but quoting the most offensive-sounding parts on newsgroups for the next two years anyway, even though they've been taken out of any kind of meaningful context? And this just in to warm the cockles of War Arrow's heart! When I wrote last week's column, I honestly had no idea that Neil Gaiman had (ostensibly) been approached to write for the series. If I'd known, then I wouldn't have been so polite. The Stacks - the site for
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ushas the rani |
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the only two things that scared me in ER was when the guy was aged into a skeleton in City of Death (and yes I did hide behind the sofa) and when K9 was
attacked by the wolf weeds and seemingly destroyed (this scared me so much i stopped watching ER for nearly a year! the next story i remember after that is
Keeper of Traken)
Adric's death did upset me to the point where i was bawling my eyes out but that was more shock than horror. speaking of hiding, Sapphire and Steel scared me so much that I hid upstairs to watch it during the Railway station story! |
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doloras |
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Oh yes. Even with the primitive special effects, Sapphire and Steel is still freakin' creepy even to modern viewers. Pity that PJ Hammond seems to have
lost his touch, on the evidence of the Evil Carnies ep of Torchwood.
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felice |
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So, now the Vashta Nerada not only haul their dinner scraps around with them for no reason, after going 100 years with no food (and possibly no food since
hatching), but they can interface with spacesuit comlinks, and read the entire contents of a planet-sized library in an instant? Impressive for a swarm of
microscopic carnivores. Running away when they realise it's the ER wasn't quite so impressive, since there was nothing to stop them eating him up in a
fraction of a second. And no real explanation for why they were so numerous - swapping a planet of trees for a planet of books shouldn't increase their
population density, and it was established in the last episode that they're not usually a threat in their natural environment. And the double shadow thing
was silly - weren't they supposed to hide in existing shadows?
The VR side of things was a bit more effective, though surely CAL would have grown up a little over the last century? |
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doloras |
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I don't see why someone who'd been in an idyllic fantasy world for 100 years would want to or need to grow up. Although that's another point - how
come CAL's virtual world looks like 21st century North America or Europe, when she actually came from the 50th century and grew up on who knows what insane
planet? Is this another manifestation of the Ghost Point, that the early 21st century is universally recognized as "as good as it ever was"?
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"Larry was with us in spirit" - Kate Orman
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Curufea |
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For some strange reason, all earth-like settings for the series seem to resemble parts of Wales, I can't understand why
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War Arrow |
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Was scared by Bok the gargoyle hissing at Pertwee when I was a kid, very scared in fact, and to be honest I'm still a bit scared by The Daemons even now.
Similarly the end of part 1 of The Sensorites scared the crap out of me only very recently.
Future Moffat story as extrapolated from his present record and check list of what must happen in an ER episode. Populace of a futuristic Sorry everyone. I think I've given up smoking so everything has gone a bit wonky. |
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ushas the rani |
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more like what have you taken up smoking?
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War Arrow |
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ushas the rani wrote: Hmmm. Do you think I should send off a few proposals to the BBC? I've managed 3 days without a fag but just caved in. If I went a whole week maybe I could come up with something really edgy (though admittedly there's probably a danger of it being a story about the Doc being incarcerated for lighting up on a no smoking planet. |
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Daniel OMahony |
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I worry that Steve Moffat might be too schematic in trying to deploy (or create) universalised horrors in his stories. I'm sure that for every viewer who
gets scared of the dark after 'The One (or two) in the Library' there's at least one who feels unmoved or even let down. Similarly the end of
'Blink' felt designed to hammer home a 'be afraid of the statues' vibe to kids in a way that feels counterproductive.
I used to be frightened by the Evil Renegade as a child, but not always for the reasons the producers intended. ER had a kind of ambient or potential horror about it - I could be scared watching the Evil Renegade walk down a corridor because I didn't know what was lurking behind the doors, or if the episode was about to cut to something weird and inexplicable happening to a completely different character. |
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War Arrow |
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Daniel OMahony wrote: Exactly right. There was just a sense of there being something very wrong going on, something absolutely unfamiliar and the proverbial Yeti in the toilet
("I'd give it 45 minutes if I were you. RRRAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!") was just part of it rather than the whole point. I was too young to remember
Troughton or Hartnall but they showed a few clips on Blue Peter (murky but distrurbing monsters looming, people caught in weird special effects) and they may
as well have been genuine footage of actual aliens for all the difference it made to me at the time. I guess it has been caught up in a formula - much like
those Tales of the (rolls eyes) Unexpected type things where Edward is a keen pipe smoker, Edward is unkind to his long suffering wife and frequently shuns her
in favour of pipe smoking activities... PUNCHLINE: Edward is gone. His wife is smoking a pipe. A huge pipe containing Edward's smouldering remains.*
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